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MinnPost asks: Could Minnesota elections be better?Minnesota elections are already a national leader, but could they be better?By Marisa Helms | Friday, Nov. 14, 2008
For the most part, Minnesota has a strong
elections process, and the state even leads the nation in some areas,
such as same-day registration and the use of paper ballots and
automatic audits.
Some
see the recount in the Senate race between Norm Coleman and Al Franken
as a prime example of why the state should move to IRV. Lots of people
seem to like it. But there are others who abhor it and hope never to
see a ranked ballot in the state of Minnesota – or anywhere else in the
United States, for that matter.
"Negative campaigning is a hallmark of two-way
races," says Massey. "With IRV, candidates stay on the issues because
they want as many first-choice votes as they can get, but also want
second-choice votes. So they don't go negative because they don't want
to alienate voters by attacking their opponents." Click here for rest of article. Comments in response to Minnesota Voters Alliance
(#2) On November 14, 2008, says:
Who are the "bureaucratic elites" and how did they
"shove [IRV] down" the people's throats, Mr. Cilek? Where's the
evidence please, not just vague innuendos and insults to us
Minneapolitans.
And explain how a person gets more votes than I do if my first choice candidate is still there to be counted? I get to vote for my choice in every round of counting. If you picked a candidate who was eliminated for being in last place, you get to vote for your 2nd choice. That's one vote for me and one for you in each round. Nice try confusing "vote" with "candidate", but in effect it won't work. Minneapolitans are too smart to fall for it. Voting in an IRV election cannot hurt your candidate. You'd have to know how everyone else voted when you voted and then figure out how to vote to hurt your candidate. No rational voter would be interested in doing that nor would anybody would be able to. Nor can you cite a single example from a real world election where that happened.
(#3) On November 14, 2008, says:
#1 -- Andy Cilek of MN Voters Alliance calls IRV
"fatally flawed," because he claims it's unconstitutional -- though in
fact, IRV has prevailed in previous constitutional challenges. Many
people see this challenge of his as a costly red herring.
#2 - Cilek also says "IRV puts blindfolds on the voters. (With IRV) voters don't know if they're helping or hurting the cause of their favorite candidate." The simple and honest response to this is that you can't hurt your favorite candidate by voting for her, that is, by giving her/him your first-choice vote. You vote your favorite candidate #1, your second favorite #2, your third favorite 3, and you don't give votes to people you don't like. How difficult is this? Where is the "blind-fold?" Using terms like "blind-folded" reveals more about the manipulative tactics of the protester than it reveals about IRV. #3 -- Quoted from the original article above: "Cilek also believes IRV is unconstitutional because it allows some people in effect to vote more than once. For example, if you pick the winning candidate, you get one vote, but if you choose a losing candidate, then your second-choice, and maybe even third-choice votes also might be counted." My sense is this: The key to the concept of "one man, one vote," is that a rich man's votes should count no more than a poor man's, that a landowner's vote isn't worth more than his tenant's, that a white person's vote isn't worth more than a black person's vote. IRV *does not* give more votes to one person than to other; rather, it allows a voter to rank preference; it allows a voter to say, "I like person Q the best, but if it comes down to A or Z, I choose A." By recognizing a voter's true preference, IRV encourages more thoughtful dialogue, and it more accurately assesses the population's true beliefs and opinions. By any definition based on fairness to both the whole and to the individual, IRV does not give one voter "more votes" than another. It simply allows a truer manifestation of actual preference, rather than forcing a voter to choose between "preference" and "strategy." Who benefits when a voter must say to herself -- I really like J, but I'm afraid K will win, so I will vote for X instead. Nobody benefits in that situation -- though Fear and Greed always see danger in change.
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Minneapolis voters supported IRV because it will streamline our elections process, ensure a majority winner, and bring forth better democracy. Additionally, and this is a crucial point, IRV eliminates the need for costly primary elections.
Cilek's organization's mission is to require partisan primaries for city elections, something Minneapolis and St. Paul do not have. Enacting such a system gives Republicans a better chance of being on a general election ballot--and that is what Cilek's organization is all about. That is why they oppose IRV and want to require ID's at the polls (which disenfranchises renters and students).